Be-Laboring The Greens
Mike SeccombeWhen a marriage busts up, those involved are apt to make some hysterical claims. And so it has proved to be, now that the Greens have walked out on the Labor Party.
Labor, the abandoned party, has given full vent to its emotions over recent days. Perhaps that’s understandable, but that doesn’t make the Labor view true.
Or even coherent.
The Greens have been portrayed as “naïve”, and also calculating. Ineffectual and also threatening. A hippie-esque party of protest and a bunch of anti-capitalist fifth columnists intent on job destruction.
Those on the Labor left, such as Anthony Albanese, who fear the competition the Greens pose in their inner-city seats, would have the public believe the party has, in his words, “a parasitic relationship with Labor, attempting to gain credit for initiatives which are Labor initiatives when they find it convenient”.
That implies the Greens have no real agenda for governing.
Those on the industrial right, such as the Australian Workers Union’s Paul Howes, would have us see them not as parasites but as predators, with a very definite and scary agenda. His is the loudest voice of the old-style right-wing union cargo cultists, concerned largely with how that cargo should be distributed between capital and labour. Green values are so utterly foreign to him that he would have the party destroyed, even if it meant giving preference to the Liberals.
After the split, perhaps the most confused response of all came from Labor’s Environment Minister, Tony Burke, who argued two propositions in the one interview: that the Greens’ environmental demands were insatiable, and also that they had long since decided “they didn’t really want to be an environment party”.
Truly, the government’s arguments have been, as my father would say, all over the shop like a madwoman’s breakfast.
About the one consistent line is that they are a party of extremists.
So The Global Mail thought it was time to go to the record, to see what the Greens do argue for, as shown in the parliamentary record. Putting our new Party Lines tool to work, we have searched all the top topics of debate in Hansard back to 2006, and particularly since 2010, when the Labor-Greens alliance came into being.
Now, we all know that environmental issues are central to the Greens’ philosophy. And climate change, being the biggest global environmental issue, has been their biggest topic. But last year climate change finished in 10th place in the number of mentions by the Greens, with just 166 mentions, well down on the average of 385 over the previous five years. Logging, clean energy, national and marine parks, all Greens’ perennials, collectively raised several hundred mentions, too.
More interesting, as shown in the accompanying graph, is that the Greens have ranged over a wide array of topics — superannuation, health insurance, dental care, aged care, and much more.
We’ll come back to some of those more surprising issues. First let’s compare the record with what the various Labor folks have been saying about their erstwhile allies’ agenda, starting with Prime Minister Julia Gillard who said, the day after the split:
“At the end of the day, the Greens party is fundamentally a party of protest rather than a party of government.” And:
“The Greens party is fundamentally a party that would prefer to complain about things than get solutions.”
This is patent rubbish. Given the opportunity — the balance of parliamentary power — the Greens rushed to implement policy solutions.
What was the biggest single issue in federal politics over the period of the Labor-Greens alliance? Putting a price on carbon.
Gillard won government promising there would not be a carbon tax. The reason we have one now is that the Greens forced one on the Prime Minister as part of the marriage dowry.
You can argue about whether this was a good outcome or not, but you cannot dispute the fact that the Greens came out looking very much like a party of government.
While we’re on the subject of taxes, consider also the mining tax. The Liberal-National parties opposed having one at all.
The Labor government tried two versions of the tax, and made a mess of it both times, as the Greens warned they would. The tax’s failings have become a major theme in leadership tensions within Labor, as various senior personnel seek to shift the blame. Now the Greens are the only party proposing a fix for the tax, so who comes across as the party that would “rather complain about things than get solutions”?
Which party pressed for a national dental health scheme, and which party eventually acceded? That would be, respectively, the Greens and Labor. Ditto the establishment of a Parliamentary Budget Office, modelled on the United States Congressional Budget Office, and intended to provide accurate, non-partisan policy costings. There are other examples — the planned referendum on indigenous recognition comes to mind — but you get the picture. On a range of substantial initiatives, it is Labor which has coat-tailed the Greens, not vice versa.
Now, let’s go back to our Party Lines database, and see which issues most absorbed the Greens in Parliament. We have entered various key words and collated the number of references to particular issues. You can too – here.
The record will surprise those who still think of the Greens as a single-issue environmental party.
Among the searches we did, top of the pops for the Greens last year were references to the asylum-seeker issue. The key words “asylum seeker” came up 211 times in 2012; “refugees” came up 737 times; “offshore processing” got 60 mentions. The related concept of human rights — often but not always used in conjunction with asylum seekers — bobbed up 368 times.
The salient point here is that the Greens were critical of Labor for abandoning its previous position on the handling of asylum seekers (it had dismantled the “Pacific solution” and committed to onshore processing for all unauthorised arrivals, not just those who come by plane or overstay a visa), and adopting, almost in toto, the more punitive positions of the conservative parties. The party that Labor now derides as “extreme” was actually, in substantial measure, advocating what used to be Labor policy.
Enter the words “single parents” into the database and you find 159 mentions. The issue was hot because the Labor government had cut the benefits paid to single parents. The Greens opposed this, as did all the big welfare groups. It caused considerable angst among many Labor people, too.
But those worried Labor people had to keep quiet while single parents became collateral damage in the quixotic pursuit of the budget surplus, which left the Greens as the only ones speaking to, and on behalf of, what has traditionally been a Labor constituency: the working poor.
It has been a similar story with the Newstart Allowance (“unemployment benefit”, 242 mentions), and other government benefits. The Greens — in the case of Newstart in particular, supported by all the major welfare groups and even a substantial component of the business lobby — usurped Labor’s traditional position as advocates of the needy.
“Marriage equality” (176 mentions), and “same-sex marriage” (27) took up a lot of the Greens’ parliamentary speaking time.
They were in favour, unlike either of the big parties. This is a controversial issue, to be sure, but to suggest support for same-sex marriage is extreme is to suggest the President of the United States and the Conservative Prime Minister of Britain, among many others, are extreme.
The rank and file of Labor wanted gay marriage recognised; the parliamentary leadership, for whatever reason, wimped it.
The Greens were the only party whose position was in accord with both the majority public opinion and the grassroots of the Labor government.
More surprising, though, is how much the Greens had talked about agriculture (104 hits for 2012), often these days in association with coal seam gas (272) and coal mining. The Greens are increasingly singing from the same song sheet as farmers about the threat posed by extractive industries to agricultural land and water.
And the Greens seem to be trying to forge other surprising alliances.
They want to cut the tax breaks on superannuation for high-income earners, to be sure, but they want to use some of the proceeds to give a significant tax cut to small business.
As interesting as what the Greens talk about, is what they don’t. You will look in vain, for example, for any reference to decriminalising drugs.
These fringe policies, with which the Greens have been tarred in the past, not only don’t get a mention in the House, they have been largely expunged from the party’s policy platform.
Anyway, you can search the database for yourself. What you will find is that on some subjects, such as fossil-fuel mining and asylum seekers, the Greens stand well to the left of the big parties, but on a lot of others they defy the “peace, love and brown-rice” stereotype.
That is not to say the Greens have become mainstream, or to endorse their policies. It is only to make the point that Labor, in its electoral desperation, has become more than a little hysterical in its claims of Green extremism.
What better example than the AWU’s Paul Howes, in an article in the Murdoch press a little while back, claiming that the Greens’ sports policy — because it suggested placing greater emphasis on non-contact sports for children — meant “no more rugby, no more Aussie rules, no more hockey or netball. Let’s all go meditate instead”.
This analysis rather amused the Greens spokesman for sport and health; Dr Richard Di Natale was a pretty handy footballer in his day, playing six seasons in the Victorian Football Association until he blew a knee.
That anecdote kind of says it all, doesn’t it, about the Labor Party’s current critique, and Howes’s in particular?
Labor must try to construct a false narrative about the Greens, because Labor no longer has a clear narrative of its own. The party of vision became the party of compromise: it went with the conservatives on boat people, with big mining on tax, with the econocrats, the private schools, the pharmaceutical companies, et cetera, et cetera.
Think health care, welfare, same-sex marriage, education reform, the list of issues on which the Greens are making inroads with traditional Labor constituencies is long.
No, the real problem Labor has with the Greens is not at all that they are too extreme. It is that they are not extreme enough.












Bring on an alliance between the Greens and farmers. They are natural allies. Just meet, talk and listen to one another.
I use to vote for Labor for I believed the were for the working class people
Boy have time has changed they not anymore they getting more like the Libs everyday they stand for the mining companies now the big end of town they turning their backs on the working class & the people in need
So this is why I have stopped voting for them and started voting for the Greens they are the party that is standing for what I believe in a far go for everyone and a cleaner environment
Nice to see some sense regarding the Greens. I am a member and have been very upset at Labor’s taking credit for our policies. Policies which would never have seen the light of day if there hadn’t been a hung parliament. I hope (but don’t hold my breath) that the general voting public recognises that it is a better outcome for this country if the Greens hold the balance of power. Just look at Qld with Newman riding roughshod over the state with no checks and balances in the system. Just look at Barry O’F in NSW cow-towing to the Shooters party and allowing 12 year olds to shoot in our national parks! I suppose the Coalition have some skin in keeping public education underfunded and educational standards low in this country. That keeps the audience numbers up for the Murdoch rags and people lapping up whatever pap they are spinning on commercial TV. Cue segue into power!
I don’t see any real evidence that the Greens are seriously trying to form government.
The Greens are really focussed on a small handful of inner city seats. The main campaign targets are the left wing
members of the ALP and the majority of Green’s campaign funding and volunteer effort is on these few seats.
If there is serious debate within the party about adjusting polices to gain more votes in the outer metropolitan electorates then it is well hidden from the public. There has been some work to connect with rural electorates – but really this is just attempting to better sell existing polices.
The Greens appear to be quite happy on around 10% of the vote. Or at least not willing to change any policies to win more. The core strategy appears to rely on a slow political migration by the majority of Australians towards the Green’s policies, with little matching movement of the Greens towards the majority. I.e. most of the movement needs to be done by everyone else except the Greens.
Even if this plan works at all (unlikely) it will certainly take a long long time – decades. Today the voting public is swinging towards the right. Like the revolutionaries of old, perhaps the Green’s are just waiting for things to get worse to hasten the Green revolution to come. Viva la Revolution!
I think the Greens are better off without the ALP.
Compromise yourself out of existance, the Greens can go no further to appease the right/hate /murdoch inspired groups. A principle and a stand for basic decency cant be further compromised or its not a principle. To overcome Murdoch propaganda can only be the enunciation of principle until people remember what they owe themselves and others respect and the best possible policy choices
I’ve been a member of The Greens for nearly 20 years, and for the bulk of that have lived and worked, farmed and raised a family in rural NSW (not regional; rural).
The Greens are alive and well, have representatives on Local Councils and Party members are embedded in local communities in many of the rural towns throughout our region. You’ve obviously not hung out with many Greens if you don’t know that we’re a Party full of members, and local and state government representatives, across Australia.
Your hypothesis that The Greens are only concerned with a few Sydney seats has us confused with the old Parties flogging the dead horse of ‘policy on the run’ as an election looms.
We have had for MANY years vibrant, serious and amazing candidates and election campaigns in towns and villages across country electorates for local, state and federal elections. These campaigns are administered, managed and carried out by Greens groups that make up many large rural electorates.
Local Green Party members do the pre-selecting, make the preference decisions, run the media campaign and contribute to policy development outside of election campaign time.
Rural areas across Australia are alive with The Green’s presence and members make active contributions to local life and are deeply involved in issues that affect their home towns. You should check out some eply rural press coverage in small town newspapers online when we near closer to the election, and then reassess your views on where The Greens concerns lie geographically.
Kath
Greens candidates in rural and regional areas need to be carefully chosen and then guided to improve their skills in policy explanation and publicity. The Port Douglas region has an eejit who gets himself in the paper by being one person carrying a protest sign outside council offices. It’s hard to respect, never mind vote for, someone like that – yet Port Douglas is one of the areas that could potentially give a lot of votes or preferences to the Greens; as is Noosa and other similar communities around the nation. Candidates need to be electable, taken seriously and properly coached and supported in the art of building and cultivating a strong and respected profile in their communities and able to argue issues in the public eye – not dismissable as tree-hugging, hippie jokes. (P.S. I like hippies AND trees)
To the Global Mail and Mike from sensible people … Thankyou.
thanks mike, an honest dispassionate look at the greens.
i get the distinct feeling that labor and the coalition are sh*t scared of losing snout space at the trough. the greens aren’t interested in the trough (only party to vote against pay rises for politicians).
they just want to fix the growing inequality, stop the unsustainable and damaging industrial practises and cease the unethical slide backwards in general. they believe these things will benefit the country now and forever and i for one agree.
A fight between Labor and Greens benifits only the Liberals and the Coalition. It’s time it stopped and if you are
fair, it’s not just Labor who have been flinging the mud.
It also saddens me that even greens supporters believe Abbotts lies about a carbon “tax”. Gillard went into the election promising a carbon price, a market based mechnisim, that is what we got. It is not a tax and it’s not 100% thanks to the hung parliment and the Greens. Don’t get me wrong, that helped push it through a little quicker than it might of otherwise but it still most likely would of happened. Also NDHS, PBO, etc… Do you think we would have got these with a Coalition government? DO NOT sell Labor short just because we’ve had a falling out. The reality is that ONLY THEY (Labor) are going to work with the Greens to achieve at least some of the things we Lefties like to see achieved. It’s all well and good to stand up for what you believe in but we have to be smart about it! Greens achieve NOTHING by attacking Labor, they might get maybe 1 more chair if they are lucky. The Coalition however benifits GREATLY, your average person is now sitting there going mmm even the Greens think this government is shit (Which I hope we can agree that it’s not.) and that Gillard is useless, well I’ll vote for Liberals and Tony Abbott cause even if I don’t particularly like him he is the other option isn’t he? This is not an attack on the average perrsons intellegence, the reality is that they are disengaged with politics and do not know any better.
Ask yourself this. Who would you rather have in government (Greens are unfortunately not a realistic option)?
And who is more likely to work with the Greens?
If we don’t want to see our great country led by a populist man who’s only ambition is his own power then this petty fight needs to stop NOW.
Liked the comment about Paul Howes and Footy. Maybe we could face him and Di Natale up in a kick off someday.
Really??? Aren’t we seeing leadership NOW by a woman who is only inspired by gaining personal power!!! Where are the POLICY decisions and acts of Parliament that show her commitment to social justice, fairness and the once great ‘labor principles’???? Haven’t seen any – have you?? ALP ditching single parents, sabotaging the mining tax, support for private education instead of bolstering public schools. If it looks like a duck and quack likes a duck – it’s a duck. Gillard / Abbott – take your pick.
As the once great Peter Garrett sang – to paraphrase – get up! Stop living on your knees. If you’re willing to put up with Gillard and crew, go ahead. Until we stop being scared of what might be – and vote for what we want, it’s just business as usual – the interchangeables (ALP/LIB).
Dental care, speaking out for fairer Newstart and Single Parents (read ‘children’ for it is children who will suffer when parents are driven into further poverty), taxing mining companies and NOT households,
protection of agriculture land ownership, humanity for REFUGEES…. on and on… that’s The Greens.
Gillard and co have been in a race to the bottom for years with the Libs. Vote for the society you want.
Gillard is a known entity, she is most definately not a populist, if all she was concerned about was her own power then why would she of pushed through with even any form of mining tax? This race to the bottom crap is just that, crap. I’m not saying your going to agree (or even that I agree with) 100% of Labor’s policies, in fact some of them make me quite angry but they are also the only party that the Greens have ANY CHANCE of dealing with. Reality is that Greens are not going to form government, they have to work with someone to get what they want done and the only people who are even going to listen to them are Labor.
As for the Gillard government on social welfare&justice & general left leaning; Pension rises,
MAJOR tax reforms which freed many low income earners from paying tax (and before that raising LITO to $1500, At least SOME mining tax in place (calling it sabotaged is a bit rich don’t ya think? Even a non “sabotaged” version would not of made anywhere near the projections because of the current global commodities market), NBN, there are plenty of other things that can go here… Which of these do you think a Coalition government led by Abbott would of done?
Abbott wants to get rid of the carbon price, get rid of the tax reforms, stop the NBN, not to mention what he will do when he gets his hands on IR or our refugee policy (which is a complete joke as it is but atleast we aren’t turning around the boats yet, and hopefully once the public wakes up to itself again Labor & the Greens can take us back to a more humanitarian way of dealing with asylum seekers). And you say there is no difference??? From where I’m standing there is a massive difference and I’ll take Gillard over Abbott ANY day.
Now to be clear here, Greens might well get my first preference in the coming elections, but Labor would most definately then be my second preference as I’d hope any true Greenie would aswell.
I’m not attacking the Greens with what I’m saying, I’m being realistic. They can not form a government and the only person winning out of this current fight between Labor and the Greens is Abbott and the Coalition…
Cuts for single parents, no increase in the dole, racist interuptions into gay and lesbian lives, aborigines, jailing babies for life.
That is not a decent social program.
I recommend i-viewing ABC TV’s Kitchen Cabinet show, with Annabelle and Christine Milne. Milne gave, as always, a direct and honest appraisal of her experience in coalition government in Tasmania. Once in coalition with the Libs and then the ALP. She had some very surprising points about which party was more conducive to a productive working relationship… check it out.
Kath,
Do you really think a majority Tony Abbott led federal Coalition government with the Greens holding 1 seat (not needed to mantain the government) can be compared to the Tas state government which IIRC was made up of 4 greens and 16 Liberals with the Greens needed to keep them in power?
I think you’d find it quite a different circumstance…
You are absolutely right. Get over and get on with defeating Abbott!
What a wonderful change to read this well researched article. Rare to read a political artticle that is not full of spin, well done.
I agree with the article and am disgusted by Labor’s attacks on the Greens, especially Paul Howes’ hysterical slanders. I came from a rusted-on Labor-voting family, admired Gough, and always voted Labor until a few (federal) elections ago. Eventually their sell-outs and compromises stuck in my craw and I abandoned them without a backward glance. Actually, I feel they abandoned me, by betraying the ideals we used to share. I haven’t changed, they have.
The wild claims and statements from people like Paul Howes and the ambiguous statements from the government are to be expected I suppose. Nothing new there. The Greens have stuck to their key policy positions consistantly whilst Labor has drifted off the path into the right wing wilderness in an effort to regain some support. This is an unhealthy and dysfunctional position for the government and completely belies the principles on which the party was founded. They are being led into irrelevance by the right wing of their party. So now they are lost in the political wilderness without a compass and will seek to blame the Greens when they hand government to the Libs. Never mind, maybe that is what has to happen in the shorter term. The facts are that the Green movement is gaining impetus around the world and Labor will continue to cede members and supporters to the Greens. The main thing for the Greens is to press on in their own agenda, ignore the bitching from Labor and continue to hold the balance of power in the senate and hopefully gain a few more seats in the house of reps.
Christine Milne is right. Past time to dissociate from Labor and stand alone as a party of government in our own right.
I’m feeling the same way this year
Maralyn,
“Bring on an alliance between the Greens and farmers. They are natural allies. Just meet, talk and listen to one another.”
I agree completely with that and it’s something I’ve been saying to anyone who’ll listen for quite some time now.
And as the grand daughtrer of generations of farmers here I have always said this too. IN fact farming cousins of mine in the Mallee have been planting millions of trees over the past 25 years to bring back some productivity into soils destroyed during Menzies times.
Today we have Brendan O”Connor claiming the hell hole on Manus Island is fine for those couple of hundred innocent people to be dumped in, but then he was the one jailing dozens of innocent
Indonesian children in adult prisons.
I have never voted liberal and have not voted ALP since Hawke sold us to Murdoch and I never will again.
Why are the Greens not severing their connections with Tasmanian Labor?
After the Tarkine sellout They should be.
Why have we not formed a coalition with the country party?
Their members would appear to be our natural allies.
Do the Greens agree State Governments are one layer of corruption too many?
Unless something has changed in Green’s Policy (probably found on the Austn Grns www), the Greens support abolition of state govt, with strengthened properly funded local governments, and federal of course.
And Gillard and some of her key honkers show their migrant status because they don’t even know the ALP was started as a protest party against Chinese people and big miners.
The racism has never disappeared but now they love the big miners.
I’m a Labor/Green voter and have no problem with both parties separating and differentiating themselves as election mode looms. I agree with Mike pointing out the Greens are are more than a protest party and I support many of their positions but with only roughly 10 percent of the vote they require a party who will agree, compromise, fight, push and legislate these policies which happens to be our Labor. The reason I like our Labor/Green/Independent government is because it is representative of todays Australia and I would prefer a diverse voice to guide/lead Australia rather than an LNP all power or nothing approach. More voices enables a stronger society. Australia is a progressive multi-cultural society which will travel just fine with the right representation. Abbotts extreme right LNP does not fit our modern society in so many ways and it would be terribly sad for Australia to go through ‘lost years’ when we can be smarter and choose a better future.
To clarify, this writer is referring to the perceived threat to Australian gold miners from large numbers of Chinese miners who came to Australia’s goldfields in the late 1800s during the major gold rushes. The Labor Party is not anti Chinese – indeed, Penny Wong is one of its most respected and valued senators.
I think the greens split from labor shows how much more in touch they are with the majority of the Australian population than the other parties. The only way now we can stop the growing divide between rich & poor & prevent the further corruption & monopolisation of the Australian political landscape is to introduce another player & stop politics being a 2 horse race between 2 parties with the same vested interests, which are not our interests.
Gillards stabbing of Rudd was a blatant coup instigated by the Australian mineral council, who are the real people in charge here. This MUST be stopped
Hi Mike, I can’t thank you enough for this clear-headed article, which coincidentally echoes some points that I made last week, below the line at SMH, in response to a knee-jerk tsunami of hysterical, hilarious, brainless, and (most of all) contradictory bile that was being vented at the Greens and their supporters. In the past, the two main parties mostly succeeded in their attempts to associate the Greens with a “dope-smoking hippies” label, but that caricature is so far from the truth these days as to be nonsensical. The Greens are positively middle of the road on many social and environmental issues of importance to ordinary voters, which is why they get my support and my vote.
An excellent and long over-due analysis.
Two critical issues that have not featured as strongly in The Greens agenda but which deserve their attention in the run-up to the election are:
EDUCATION
Despite all the rhetoric of the “Education Revolution” and Labor’s phantom commitment to Gonski, Julia Gillard first as Education Minister and then PM has imposed a backward looking straightjacket on our education system by her promotion of standardised national testing — Taylorism applied to learning. Modelled on George Bush’s regressive ‘No Child Left Behind’ program which was itself driven by a News Ltd approach to management metrics (as pointed out long ago by the SMH), Gillard’s ‘reforms’ represent a giant step backwards. We need young people with a greater capacity for independent thinking and creativity, not assembly line drones. Let’s see
The Greens leading a truly innovative national dialogue about education for the age of profound uncertainty and upheaval our children face.
GOVERNANCE
One thing is clear — our institutions of representative democracy are broken. This 19th century model can no longer deal with the challenges of a post-growth world, whoever is at the helm. Our institutions are simply in the wrong ball park. We need to go back to first principles and rethink what democracy means in an age of rapid change, systemic breakdown, and radical emergence. This is a new game for us all — including The Greens. But they can play a vital role in preparing our community for the paradigm change in governance the times demand.
The Greens will have to moderate some of their more extreme policy stances – such as an open door to asylum seekers – and be more patient on other issues (eg, marriage equality) to make an alliance of sorts with some members of the farming sector possible, but it holds enormous
potential for better governance than either of the main two parties are currently offering – with
Campbell Newman’s LNP tearing up all sorts of environmental protection legislation in Queensland and NSW’s Barry O’Farrell failing to effectively protect prime ag land and waterways from CSG and mining. There is the potential for unity on common ground but it’s up to Greens not to blow it by getting their more extreme members to back off on some issues for a while in the interests of defeating an Abbot-led LNP, which would decimate the environment and trample
social justice and fairness legislation etc. Show some discipline, and Senator Milne really needs to show the leadership to back her words of wanting to appeal to regional and rural voters. Ask for the co-operation and even silence of MPs prone to the wackier stuff till after the election – LeeR, of course, and on many issues SH-Y too.
The law demands open borders for asylum seekers, what is wrong with people like you?
Do you even understand that slamming the borders shut is what we did with the jews in 1938 and that didn’t work out too well.
AS Australia helped to write the convention and was the 6th country to ratify it we should live up to it without this incessant whinge.
Marilyn – and our forebears wrote the British monarch into our constitution, so we should just live up to it and not whinge?
Whilst I truly support more humane treatment for refugees, just because we signed a document sixty years ago doesn’t mean we should not continually review our
commitments and readjust our focus. We are not obliged to just carry on what what done in the past – if you want to change how the issue of asylum seekers is viewed, arguing that we helped write the convention, and that we ratified it,
decades before many of us were born, is not going to be productive.
The Greens do not advocate an open door policy to assylum seekers. The policy the Greens have been trying to put on the table is unfortunately frequently misrepresened.
We all know it is hugely expensive to support assylum seekers in detention. Lets put aside for one minute the damage with regard to mental health, that such indefinite detention causes, and the ongoing costs associated with this, and just look at the mere cost of housing, food and medical.
If we took all the money that Australian tax payers are currently forking out to imprison assylum seekers, we could put that money towards employing extra UNHCR staff at the exit points for these assylum seekers – i.e. onshore processing at the point of exit from other countries, not at the point of arrival in Australia, Lets take for example, Indonesia,
Currently there are only two such people on the ground for processing all the assylum seekers in Indonesia.
These extra UNHCR officers could then work their way through the back log of visa applications and assylum seeker verification etc. Then, rather than desperate assylum seekers getting on boats that sink at sea, and putting all the money these people have, into the pockets of people smugglers, these people could then be relocated to a safe country in order to live out the rest of their lives in peace. They do not necessarily have to be relocated to Australia once processed – we are merely one of numerous countries taking in assylum seekers.
In this way, the waiting list could be adequately addressed, assylum seekers could stay in Indonesia for the short time it would take to process them and be flown to their new country, safetly. This could all happen within a couple of months instead of, at times, over 3 years, and that is after the assylum seekers have endured the dangerous boat journey and lost all they have to people smugglers.
This is the only policy that will keep assylum seekers out of leaky boats and stop rewarding people smugglers. Not only that, it is by far the MOST humane option of all.
This policy does not constitute an open door policy – it constitutes common sense!!
Would it not be worth disclosing that the Greens and the Global Mail share the same major financier?
Actually, it would be worth disclosing, and elaborating. Graeme Wood did give one very large donation to the Greens. My understanding (gleaned from hearing him interviewed by Fran Kelly on ABC radio) is that he does not intend to do it again. He also put up the bucks to start The Global Mail. However, as far as I know he has never tried to influence what we write. He was certainly unaware that this piece was being written, and it was prompted entirely by my own perception that the claims being made about the Greens by Labor were contradictory and inaccurate. Speaking for myself, I am not a member of any party, and there are people I like and admire in all the parties. I will not be voting for anyone in September.
Seccombe says: “I will not be voting for anyone in September.”
What!
So how near are we to the crude US and UK style of non-compulsory voting if such a respected political writer blithely dismisses the people who have spilt blood for the right to vote?
This is typical of the ALP, including Gillard – acrimoniously attack anyone or anything that is neither your friend or that you don’t need at that instant. Does the ALP think they can wipe out or neutralise the Greens like the Democrats were? I don’t think their current leadership is clever enough. They have a knack for making things blow up in their face.
I’d love to know if the Rudd camp has been in contact with the Greens.
There are other examples — the planned referendum on indigenous recognition comes to mind —.
That’s obviously why thr Greens withdrew their support from the Aboriginal leaders who supported the development of the Wild Rivers region with a view to providing jobs and funding for improved health and education facilities.
Of course “Sorry Sarah” issued a Press Release stating it was all about saving Lake Eyre, Instead of the Greens pretending they are an “environmental Party” they should come clean and admit they are the “ant-development” Party Anti mining, anti dams,anti cheap power,anti near everything somewhat like a cult of Latter Day Luddites.
I have been a Green member for many years but I have decided to resign. Green MPs do not seem to get the fact that our greatest threat is from an Abbott government. There should be no interview that does not attack the Opposition. As an example Adam Brant on Insiders spent all his time attacking Labour. As for Paul Howes he is just like Bill Hartley He would rather see a Coalition government than his foes in Labour win.
Seems to me Labour and the Libs have both strayed too far from their origins to be trusted with governing the country. Rather vote in the Greens and hopefully more true Independents (who seem to represent the Rural area than the Nationals), and who should be able to vote on issues independent of towing the Party line, or is that too much to ask for? Cynics will say I live in Utopia, but that is my dream for what Australia can be when it comes of age.